As you may or may not know, hadiths are open to manifest errors, subjection, corruption, fabrication and interference. Therefore for someone to say “Bukhari (or anyone else for that matter) recorded a certain hadith” can be extremely misleading. Since it may imply that Bukhari was present taking notes (verbatim) whilst the Prophet was supposedly uttering certain words. No, the correct way to put it should be “Bukhari claims to have traced the following saying to the Prophet, 250 years after it was said.”

You are someone that’s undoubtedly highly intelligent and educated, that is why it is important for me to state that you should not believe for one moment that the science of hadith (tracing a chain of sayings to a particular person over a period of 250 years or more) is absolutely flawless.

But I digress from topic here, all I’m saying is that this so called ‘Cleric’ from Semarang is one that gives us Muslims a bad name. He is merely someone who is adept at manipulating or circumventing the Islamic ‘legal process’ to get what he wants.

The guy sickens me.

Mohd married Aisha when she was 6 and consumated the marriage when she was 9.
And by that fact, many people are doing the same thing, sunnah nabi, cos what nabi did is something many people think as a good thing to follow. So he isn’t completely wrong.
No need to apologize, especially when your words are very normal, nothing offensive at all, not to me at least.
Thank you for the wise words and may God smile upon you as well.

Err…. Sorry (punten, da eneng teh meni bahenol pisan atuh… hehe)

Speaking as a Muslim (though not a very good one I’m afraid) I can honestly say that this sorry ass excuse for a cleric cannot be compared to the Prophet (pbuh) in any way shape or friggin form.

Why you ask? Please, allow me to explain.

While it’s true that the Prophet did marry Aisha at the young age of 9, the Prophet waited several years before actually consummating the marriage. Any good Muslim who knows the history of his Prophet will tell you that Muhammad (pbuh), the man who in the full flush of youthful vigor, a young man of 24, married a woman much his senior (Khadijah 50 years old at the time. An age when marital passions begins to slowly die) and remained faithful to her for 26 long years till the time of her passing.

Why would any normal man would wanna marry a senior citizen some of you may ask. Well news flash, the Prophet wasn’t just anyone. He was God’s final messenger baby yeah!

He married her not for lust or sexual passion, but for love (awwwww….. aint dat sweet).

Not thus are men’s lives to be judged.

And if you look at the other women whom he married later in his life, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection and so on and so forth.

Bottom line: Comparing the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to the asswipe cleric featured in this article is like comparing a brand new Porsche to a goddamn tricycle! And you can take that to the bank!

As a closing, lemme apologize to any of you if my words are considered offensive and/or harsh. It was not my intention. Allow me to share a quote by our Prophet that I hold dear:

“Had you been harsh on the people, they would not have listened to you.”

Arrogance is a satanic trait. May Allah forgive me and save me from that.

May God smile upon you always.

-Ary, wise ass Muslim-

…..because she loves them should be because she loves him….hahaha saking shocknya nih.

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Originally Posted By jakaKak, you said this kind of things never happened during Soeharto era?

Funny, just 10km south of Bogor there is a village “selling” their children (12-16 y.o) to some Indons and Arabs to be married for 3 months to some years. Since Soeharto era up to now. Just ask tukang2 ojek after you go down from bus. (Ok, I’m not sure now, but til the last time I leave Indonesia, the parents still do). And the clerics there keep on saying: it is better than prostitution. So runs it.

Well, it is your landpeople too Mbak. We rear too many dumb clerics, apparently!

“What I meant was, during Soeharto, this was never ok-ed in public the way it has now. Radicalism or fanaticism of any kind was never allowed. Sebetulnya bagus kaya gitu..”

Kak, I do understand what you mean. However, why turn to the past? Didnt we make ourselves bankrupt already? Look, we lack good leaders now because of the era.

Many still do not realize that Reformasi means open battle. Government gives all public issues to public. All are open battles now. This issue is just the same. This dumbness is our enemy and resulting from the lack of good leadership. Simply.

“I also understand what you mean, but it’s just 10 yrs after soeharto is no longer president, things aren’t better, but worse. Now that’s sad.”

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